This Challenge & Why Electric page was made in 2019, if you were not sure why to change to electric driving. Some were basicly against it and read a lot on the (socials-) internet that it’s stupido to drive electric. Long charging times and short range. Lots of burnt-out EV’s in “funny” video’s. You also read that solar is the new asbestos. And in Africa they send children into the mines for the batteries. And no more insects and bugs is nice anyway, you can’t get poked anymore. Cool.
We can conclude today that if you don’t realise what is happening with global pollution, you don’t need to be taken seriously. So we took this for petrolheads information out.
Our team really realised in 2005 that nature was going to change because of the pollution humans have been creating for 125 years. Earth’s absorption level had been reached now, things were going wrong. So things like this are still here below.
NOTE: We have a special information part to read for governments & NGO’s only on how they can make smart use of our e-set now and save a lot of money in TCO. Scroll down for this and for gearbox “eating up your power” data and Hydrogen information too.
Why Dutch ?
In the Netherlands we have a lot of people (19 milion) on a small piece of land (+-260x220km/163x140miles), which is also 2/3rd partly below sea level. With too many cows, pigs, chickens, highways, dirty industries, tulips and farmers who spray their land with poisons. Therefore, the will to make an impact can be explained from that angle. Dutch see the need to change perhaps more clearly around the corner.
A few petrolheads still think there is nothing wrong with polluting because there was also an ice age and high water levels 2 million years ago, right? From the Netherlands we walked to England right? So whats the point? We leave them dreaming. These are bad things of social media and algoritmes. But we left the video for those who want to know: EV or Gas
The movie is nicely constructed and the data comes from an UK oil refinery that only used 3 big power cables to get electric power, that electric data was summed up and divided by the amount of fuels coming off the refinery. For years this was tracked and published.
6kW per litre fuel
Strange that we don’t know that so much electricity is used to make 1 litre of fuel. Fuel doesn’t grow on trees, so if you look into the refining closely, a necessary process to be able to use crude oil, refining is heating, pumping, filtering, distilling, purifying, heating- and distilling again etcetera. Roughly speaking, each litre fuel requires 6,000 watts of electric power (6kW), from well to your filling station. So if you buy 40 litres of fuel, this is the same electric power used as 40 hours of continuous electric hoovering, almost 2 days. Were you aware of that? Check the sticker on your vacuumcleaner for the watts per hour.
The oil industry uses that amount of clean power today to make something dirty and polluting the earth with it. Earning money. On top of that, we also have to set the fuel on fire to move forward. And that comes in the air we breathe and nature has to be able to live from etc etc etc. You can now choose to opt out.
It is important to recognise that generating electric power also produces pollution. Solar and wind turbines don’t grow on trees either. But if you use that same amount of electricity to drive right away electric EV, you see why electric driving is so smart to do. We can put today the same amount of power into a battery and drive clean and quite a bit further than 1 litre fuel. See page Specs. Read it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_refinery
And the thin skin around the Earth als extra belief: the atmosphere above you (in which we all live) is only 200 km high (125 miles), this distance you cycle in 5 hours. Where we dump all the emissions day in day out, since the industrial revolution began 125 years ago. Nature cannot handle it anymore.
Data
Can you trust data? After research by universities around the world since 1965, all new data is double-checked, peer-viewed and published worldwide. All these studies are ranked by the United Nations called the IPCC Panel. Get a look:
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-cycle/
The electricity grid is not full
Experts say the current grid congestion is reasonably easy to solve by using more of our own power at peak times, energy conservation, smart storage and paying large consumers to use power outside peak hours. This was argued by Lisanne Saes and Derek Steeman of Holland Solar at solar energy trade fair Solar Solutions. “It frustrates us that there is a certain framing in the (social-) media that the grid is full,” they said. “It’s not a problem”. It’s a change of use that’s about to begin.
e-Rovers convertion use bi-directional charging, so your 4×4 car is already included as a house battery, plugged in overnight. Forward thinking in development is our nature.
Government and NGO’s
Do you see the yellow pick up picture? We do have information for you to discuss in your organisation. Don’t wait for a OEM manufacturer for a strong electric 4×4 truck, that will take another 15 years or longer. We are happy to give a lecture on converting and go electric. You have your strong 4×4 car, you can go anywhere, and you save so much pollution and money. Yes money to spare for your organisation.
We can convert any 4×4 car in your organisation, including the pick-up, with our EV set. This saves you buying a new one that doesn’t even exist yet: a powerful 100% electric 4×4 car. But, you already have that car, convert that car electric now. The conversion only takes 3 days. you read it right and, at a garage near you.
Unknown data
Secret #1: You read this above and saw this in the movie. One (1) litre fuel has already consumed 6 kW (= 6.000 Watts) of electric power to make it from the oilwell to petrolstation.
Secret #2: in every 4-stroke fuel engine, the combustion takes place in only 1 part of the 4 cycles. This explains the low yield (effect) of 35%, so 65% is waste and lost in heat, flushing and compresion out of the potentional energy in the fuel. Polluting you know.
Secret #3: any gearbox consumes energy, without you noticing it. Loss of 25% up to 45% because of wear & tear of the gears moving around. But a 4×4 trucks has bigger loss than smaler cars that is obvious, they have 43 boxes and 2 diffs. (tested by Land Rover itself in 1996). So beware of an easy conversion others do, you “pay” this with a shorter range and a more expensive battery that is also heavier and takes up more space. More of gearboxes & range below, scroll a little further please.
No-secret: it will be forbidden to drive your fuel truck in more and more cities around the World. This change is speeding up getting the pollution out of crouwded cities. See pics Paris here on the site.
The petrol lobby is trying to use all sorts of arguments that electric driving is very dirty that we don’t have enough lithium and that it is not at all possible for all cars to go electric to give the inveterate petrol drivers an anti lobby. Trolling is everywhere. More on page specs.
Sentiment is turning
If we ask anyone: how will we drive the car in 50 years, there is the unanimous answer: ELECTRIC. So the question is not, if we will drive electric, but when. This sentiment is called “transition” we read about everywere.
Zero-emission zones reduce air pollution in cities. Zero-emission zones evoke resistance but prove effective everywhere: there is no planet-B
Amsterdam here and Paris below in a nice pic.
Converting an oil leaking 4×4 car gives an added benefit
In general a Land Rover has a bad name in terms of maintenance and often breaks down. And always leaking oil on the ground. If your Rover is converted to electric, then you have no maintenance or oil leaking at all. Still an extra hopeful idea for a green future. Even Toyota, Nissan Patrol and Mercedes leak oil on the ground.
The Simpson’s drawing we couldn’t resist posting. Should you (as an investor) find the link to Land Rover one of “always breaking down and leaking oil everywhere”, you can drop this idea. Electric is never leaking again.
And not only for Land Rovers, but for all brands we sellproduce EV sets tailormade for your 4×4 you drive today or want to drive tomorrow:
Don’t you ever get tired, from blabla socials talk?
“Yes, it’s incredibly depressing. But I just don’t put up with lying about it. I don’t put up with pretending it’s not long past five past twelve. Especially when the science is absolutely clear (IPCC) on that and you see climate change happening around you today. I don’t want to participate in the call to present things more positively than they are.” (Change Inc. spoke with Bénedicte Ficq before the Nov. 12, 2024 court ruling Shell & Tata Steel vs. Environmental Defense.)
Below: e-Rovers mind: “develop a product that doesn’t exist yet. Strike out on an unknown path. We did”.
NO GEARBOXES WHY?
A picture, a drawing and a movie to explain this all for an important reason: we pay a lot of attention to it. To be converting to electric effective, you have to know this. We are explaining here why easy-bolting an electric motor onto a gearbox (which many builders do) is not such a smart idea and expensive too.
A gearbox is necessary with any fuel engine because a small portion of the revolutions can be used for propulsion (called a small powerband). That is why a different ratio must be chosen each time in the gear-box. You will do this all day. But the gears that are not chosen they just rotate nicely along, eating power. So between 1,700 and up to 4,500 rpm maximum goes best on fuel (above and below there is simply not enough power).
Electric motors doesn’t have that: and e-Rovers SRM-motor has a straight strong line in power from 1 to 2,900 rpm. Stronger than other electric motors. We go full power from standstill. An internal combustion fuel engine needs first the clutch slipping & reving up to start, or the (oilbath-) automatic transmission needs reving and pressure first.
We do not have a clutch eather, saving extra loss and parts we do not need. We put some current on the windings and off we go.
The non-visible hand of resistance
All the gearboxes explained. Any 4×4 car is the winner of the most boxes in one car.
1st picture is all moving parts inside. Other gearboxes are transfer case, the splitterbox for front axle and rear axle. In the 2 axel we have the differential consuming power too.
The 2nd picture is the same, but you can see the outside checking when climbing under your truck.
The 3rd is a movie just explaining a single gearbox, so excluding the transfer case and splitter for front axle and rear axle (where the same gears are also rotating extra).
You may now understand that this takes a huge cut in power between the engine and your wheels on the road. Even on a new truck, this loss of power will be a minimum of 25% up to 45% for older ones. All new 4×4 cars have the three gear boxes in a four-wheel drive car and 2 differentials. They are still in it. We reach 93% from battery to the wheel … Now you understand why our curb weight is the same as the fuel type, because we use the take-away weight of the engine and gearboxes and diffs to put our batteries in place.
Drawing: Top right is the shaft to the fuel engine. Bottom left and right are the shafts to the differentials (front and rear) via an intermediate shaft to the wheels.
1st and 2nd pictures are Land Rover, 3rd Jordan F1 (movie), below an army Jeep: you see from line engine/gearbox/clutch, going out of line to go high/lowgears box and beside engine to the front- and rear axel including both differentials in 5th. picture.
Convertion a car to 100% electric is not easy. We took the long-road. You can now imagine better with all these gears, bearings and (slowered extra by oil), what a huge resistance there is in the driveline.
So if you put an electro motor to replace the fuel engine only, that poor electro motor will always have to overcome all those heavy resistances all day. Not giving it to the road we do.
For extra perception of the story above, a similar thing happens as hanging 3 buckets on a rope behind your sailboat (or your friends). Or put the skibox on your roof and leaving it on your car all year. Or put an enclosed trailer behind your car. All year. But the trailer or ski box you can see it, the buckets or gearboxes not.
We hope that with this long explanation you can understand now why we wanted a different design from the start. It is the hardest way of designing within all the legal rules. Without having to approve and test a new chassis because the suspension changed. The reason a new developed 4×4 EV is too expensive for a small market to try for a OEM. We just bolt the old axles off and the new ones on. Job done. The same shock absorbers, brakes, linkages and rims and tires goes on, charge and drive. A three day job around your corner. Fuel engine, gearboxes, diffs to the melter for re-use. Tank cooling radiator all out. We are 80% circulair at this moment. To bolt only an electric motor on your gearbox drivetrain it is a long time consuming job, leaving lots of metal in, no space for batteries and loosing 45% because of above? And done by a specialised shop not around the corner.
But by keeping all gears in the powertrain for an “easy e-fit”, you do have to compensate with a bigger and heavier battery to be able to drive the same distance as we do (400km/250mile/range). And batteries are expensive, we use as less batteries as possible. And we re-use batteries as well (read this other part of the site)
That makes our way of converting even the better way to go. And cheaper to convert as a bonus, because we make the e-axels in a basic design, the battery boxes in a basic design, send this set to your garage nearby and they convert your 4×4 car in 3 days. Interested? Go to page Dealers. On the first page we explained the work to do step-by-step.
NOTE: we also indicate that the new off-road 4×4 cars that are sold tomorrow or next year will also be eligible for our EV conversion later on. Even the mild-hybrids, which can only drive 60km/38miles electrically now, will also come up to us in a few years. Consider this if you want to partner with us financially. Our market goal 4×4 cars is from 1965 to 2050.
HYDROGEN (H2)
Petrolheads like to keep alive the dream of driving on sythetic fuel or hydrogen. Alternative energy storage like green hydrogen are clean on the road but cost to produce & reliability to power is far behind with the current electic & battery technology. If we engineering this to the max in the next 20 years (make H2, store and get it back to electricity), we will never reach below 50% loss of energy. In the world where we already have a shortage of (electric-) power, this is not an option. This makes the Battery EV driving already the best option: practical, affordable and with plenty of range for daily use. Especially for a 4×4 car that emits many times more than a small car.
All our design is prepared and plug and play for hydrogen storage (stacks, read below) because of our back-bone-engineering. We have taken this into account in the development period. We work closely together with other hydrogen companies and TU universities in this field. Our “backbone design” ranges from 280 to 800 Volts to connect.
Oxygen might become interesting in 25 years, if, for example, we set up so much solar in deserts that we get a surplus of electric power (check h2storage). Nuclear power is also part of this and even extra offshore wind turbines. Only then oxygen might be a solution. But we are already taking it into account now, allowing every e-Rover conversion to switch to hydrogen tanks without problems. Then your car can enter a third life. https://www.h2storage.nl/home/
COMPARISON “FUELS”
There is always a back side to any idea:
Store 100% electricity (Kw) into a battery and get 93% out to the road (to drive, effectively measured). 7% loss in transition.
Hydrogen you put in 100% electricity (Kw) and get only 48% out to the road (to drive, effectively measured). 52% loss in transition.
Synthetic fuel you put in 100% electricity (Kw) and get only 40% out to the road (to drive, effectively measured). 60% loss in transition. A fun miscalculation is that in making this fuel, co2 or carbon is used from the air. This is counted as profit. But after combustion in the engine, this comes back 1 to 1, plus the combustion in itself. Every combustion releases pollutants.
Fuel (diesel, gasoline or gpl/gas) you put 100% in and 23% comes out on the road. (to drive, effectively measured). With the highest amount of emissions of all. 77% loss in transition. Diesel has extra the small particles added to it.Algae naturally make oil in their cells that can be converted to fuel.
Biofuel
Then bio-algae oil? The idea of driving, sailing or flying on algae oil is not new. Oil company ExxonMobil rigged a veritable algae plan and for years invested millions in the alternative fuel. The program has since been discontinued. Algae requires a lot of light and nutrients to grow, which makes the production process expensive. It cannot compete with petroleum, which has a higher energy density and a lower price. In addition, the combustion involves the same, creating foul exhaust fumes. While it takes more energy to make algae than petroleum. A double-no, therefore. 85% loss in transition.
Solar 2.0.: Perovskite is seen as the next big thing in solar energy. This mineral is cheap, widely available and easy to apply. 100% recyclable and high yield 35% vs. current solar of 25%.
Yet we are making progress in being less polluting. Cleaning up cities go faster and faster and speeding up: 63 european cities refuse under euro6 all vehicles. A 260% growth in 3 years. London Lunaz, Amsterdam, PARIS: all ban the fuel cars.
Hydrogen
We collaborated and co-initiated the Race the Green project for Paris-Dakar project in 2019. To race in 2021. We gained interesting expertise. Project stopped 2022. Our SRM electric engine was used for this, which is the reason for being there. (the blue thing in the back, evo5). We follow Forze racing team and Z.E.P.P. (zero emmission power plant) both from TU-Delft univerity Delft Netherlands. Dutch students won the solar race in Australia miltiple times. Lightyear car.
However, whether hydrogen is the holy grail for the entire energy transition? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t. But if deployed where it has real value, it can certainly help us make the world a lot more sustainable.
But remember: Hydrogen you put in 100% electricity (Kw) to get it and you get only 48% back (to drive, effectively measured). 52% loss in transition. Allways, more below. And a Hydrogen car is an EV car, only storing electricity another way.
There will always be a big energy loss from first having to make hydrogen with a lot of (electric-) power, and store via high-pressure tank storage, feeding this hydrogen back to a stack, which is going to bring the hydrogen back to (electric-) power. The same (electric-) power you started out with, to make hydrogen and where now, after that whole process, you only have 48% left.
You started out with 100% (electric-) power. You could have put that same amound of electric power into the grid or put it into nya battery and EV-drive. In the grid 97% ends up in any electrical device and in the battery 94%.
We follow closely the hydrogen stack-improvements worldwide since 2017, as the Dutch Technical University: https://www.forze-delft.nl
What does e-rovers do differently?
e-Rovers responds to the growing demand for electric mobility while offering an alternative to purchasing new EVs by making the transition affordable and accessible.
What sets e-Rovers apart is their commitment to a circular economy. They prevent usable vehicles from ending up on the scrap yard, while helping to reduce carbon emissions at the same time. The company goes beyond conversions: they look for ways to sustainably recycle old components such as engines and transmissions, further minimizing their environmental impact.
This Land Rover Discovery is ELECTRIC now, no leaks, happy, smiling dog and bio-beer IPA.
“e-Rovers strives to make an impact financially, environmentally and socially, with a clear vision for the future”. April 2025 Den Helder, Eindhoven, Netherlands.
Check data:
We give here below a few sites below that correctly state what is going on. Look especially on sites that are reliable and not back in your familiar algoritmes corners of the (social-) internet. Sorry to say.
Why “drill, baby, drill” is going to fail. (Greenpeace jan25)
The most powerful climate denier is back in the White House. But there is hope! Not even Trump can save the oil industry from these 4 developments:
1. There are currently 86 climate cases pending against oil companies worldwide.
2. Clean energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels.
3. Biden has allocated $74 billion for climate initiatives, which Trump cannot reverse.
4. People are coming together to support each other in climate disasters and demand change.
Petrolheads: the world can no longer handle the pollution. Where in the past it took 2 million years to have a different weather pattern, we have managed the same (!) in 125 years. Therein lies the difference to move now.
“The climate crisis calls for action, but doom-and-gloom doesn’t help”. Quote communication strategist Daan Remarque calls himself a ‘climate optimist’, because he believes optimism is contragious and change faster than gloom. As a columnist for the FD, he writes under that heading about how to get the masses on board with the energy transition. (change.inc, Daan Remarque)
Social media funny?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-08769-7
https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/politik/kemfert-e-fuels-klima-100.html
https://fullycharged.show/episodes/e-fuels-wont-work-this-is-why/
“Smart energy control means allowing companies to optimally control their energy generation, consumption and storage. This can be done, for example, with solar panels, batteries, bi-directional go/to EV car, combined heat and power (CHP) and e-boilers. The aim is to use energy more efficiently, reduce peak consumption and even generate revenue in the energy market”.
Source: Barth de Klerk, Director of Operations and Transition at Netbeheer Nederland, Karin van der Eijk, owner of VDE Plant, Frank Broos, Head of Flex Services at Eneco and John van Schagen, Change inc. march2025
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-cycle/
https://www.iea.org/reports/international-shipping
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/ulez-payments
https://ellenmacarthurfoundation.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudia_Kemfert
https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/Global-LCA-passenger-cars-jul2021_0.pdf
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-43714029 about sea ships bringing goods around the world without legislation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9yHLH14ho
EXPLANATION TERMS
EV (BEV) = (Battery) Electric Vehicle.
Hybrid = Vehicle that is powered by an fuel engine ICE and another source of power such as a electric engine/motor and battery or H2.
H2 = Hydrogen, another storage of energy, car runs electric (EV).
ICE = Internal Combustion Engine, burning fuel, (bio-) diesel, LPG/GPL gas, LNG, blue diesel etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine
OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer. (VW, Toyota, Land Rover etc)
JLR = Jaguar Land Rover, TATA India owned https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_Land_Rover
DeepL.com we used for translations, among friends and family. If it rattles a bit, we work on this issue… We use UK and not USA language. tTe whole e-Rovers team is Dutch but we write this site in english. Because 85% of those interested in 4×4 EV cars live outside the Netherlands and drive their 4×4 daily.
